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The Hadza, chocolate, and resistance training | Drew Harrisberg

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In Episode #203, I welcome Drew Harrisberg back to the show for another episode.

I always love having Drew on The Proof, and our regular check-ins offer a great opportunity to recap, review, and discuss topical events outside the constraints of the typical format.

“Most of us have the food security that allows us for a myriad of food options. I would caution people [against]  reducing this to single isolated nutrients in food and using that to label that food as a ‘superfood’.”

Drew Harrisberg is an exercise physiologist, sports scientist, and has a graduate certificate in diabetes education and management. His education and experience mean that he brings an informed and considered viewpoint to the show and provides a space where we can dip in and out of a variety of topics to pack a lot of information into just one episode.

“There is a very logical explanation for why you would feel better [short term on a carnivore diet], but based on all of the science we have, eating those foods at a high exposure level long term is probably not going to serve you well in terms of colorectal cancer risk, cardiovascular disease risk, dementia and so on.”

There’s a lot to learn in Episode #203. We discuss red meat consumption and associated health outcomes, sleep and insulin resistance, and the dietary pattern of the Hadza tribe. We also cover the importance of maintaining activity levels throughout the day and tips to incorporate movement in environments where it’s difficult to do so. For any chocolate lovers listening, we dive into a recent study on cocoa flavanols, and note how much chocolate you can eat for maximum benefit and minimum negative health outcomes.

Specifically, we cover:

  • Intro [0:00]
  • Eye Health [2:35]
  • The Hazda Diet [8:28]
  • Carnivore Craze [28:03]
  • Revisiting CGMs [50:49]
  • Tips for Regulating Glucose [1:04:00]
  • Benefits of Chocolate [1:19:58]
  • Daily Steps [1:37:49]
  • Resistance Training [1:55:12]
  • Book/ Show Recommendations [2:24:34]
  • Outro [2:33:18]

As well as focusing on the science, we share what we’ve been listening to, reading, and enjoying lately. I hope you learn something from this diverse investigation; you can head over to The Proof on YouTube to share your feedback, what you enjoyed, and if there’s any guests you’d like to see on the show in future.

To connect with Drew, you can reach him via his Instagram or website, Drew’s Daily Dose. You can also listen to his previous appearances on the show on your favourite podcast app.

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Enjoy, friends.


More about Drew Harrisberg

Drew Harrisberg is an exercise physiologist, sports scientist, has a graduate certificate in diabetes education and management, and most importantly – is a happy and healthy guy thriving with type 1 diabetes. After being diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at age 22, Drew made it his mission to regain control of his health by making positive changes to the way that he lives, eats, moves, and the mindset in which he approaches life. Drew has not only accepted living with diabetes but has also learned to manage it so that it doesn’t manage him. Drew’s background as a qualified health professional and his personal experience living with type 1 diabetes for over 10 years is what fuels his passion to share everything he learns along the way, which is why he created Drew’s Daily Dose – a home that inspires, empowers, and enables people to thrive rather than simply survive.

Drew is a voice for the diabetes community and is an ambassador for Diabetes NSW. He has also presented a motivational TEDx talk.

Resources: studies and related information

  • Charity Beyond Type 1: support people with Type 1 diabetes in Ukraine
  • Study: Dark chocolate and the microbiome
  • Study: Cocoa flavonols and cardiovascular disease
  • Study: 45g of chocolate per day offers maximum benefit
  • Study: Meta-analysis looking at steps per day and risk of death
  • Study: Effects of red and white meat protein sources
  • Study: Ultra-processed food intake, animal food intake and mortality
  • Study: Sleep deprivation and insulin resistance
  • Study: Effects of saturated fat, polyunsaturated fat, monounsaturated fat, and carbohydrate on glucose-insulin homeostasis
  • Study: Longer duration minimal intensity physical activity versus shorter periods of moderate to intensive exercise
  • Study: Effects of resistance training to muscle failure
  • Study: Effects of Evolution, Ecology, and Economy on Human Diet

Interesting books, movies, documentaries, and podcasts

Simon’s Picks

  • Voicing Change Volume II by Rich Roll
  • Formula 1: Drive to Survive on Netflix
  • Episode #202 of The Proof: How the microbiome affects your health and ways to optimise it with Drs Erica and Justin Sonnenburg

Drew’s Picks

  • 1984 by George Orwell

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