Blood glucose, CGM’s, meat and longevity | Drew Harrisberg

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In Episode #200, we step into a new era. Introducing The Proof with Simon Hill, where I bring you evidence-based, nuanced information to help you improve your health and longevity.

The Proof is a natural evolution of Plant Proof. In case you have concerns, let me clear the air. As you’ll hear me say in this episode:

Let me just say on the record, I still eat plants, and only plants. Dropping the “plant” from the title is by no means related to my diet at all; it is simply because I want to expand the show.

I’m joined by my good friend Drew Harrisberg on this episode. This is Drew’s seventh appearance on the show, and for good reason. He is an exercise physiologist, sports scientist, and has a graduate certificate in diabetes education and management. He has also learnt how to thrive while living with Type 1 diabetes, and empowers others to do the same.

On this episode, we discuss blood glucose, CGMs, meat and longevity, evolving the podcast, and more. Drew will be a regular guest on The Proof, sitting down with me every month or so. Specifically, we cover:

Soy consumption is a hotly contested topic on the internet right now. From claims that soy causes cancer to accounts of men experiencing feminisation, there is an array of misinformation and poorly interpreted studies that slander soy. My philosophy is that we must always approach nutritional claims with a science-first approach, using the evidence we have to develop an informed conclusion with nuance.

Specifically, we discuss:

  • Caffeine & blood glucose [0:39]
  • CGMs for managing diabetes [9:29]
  • Interpreting data from CGMs [19:09]
  • Evolving the Plant Proof Podcast [40:09]
  • A recent shark attack in Australia [54:13]
  • Claims that meat extends lifespan [1:08:22]
  • The fructose controversy [1:28:57]
  • Good news [1:51:49]
  • Book & show recommendations [1:58:49]
  • And much more.

If you want to hear more from Drew, you can connect with him via his Instagram or website, Drew’s Daily Dose. You can also listen to his previous six appearances on the show on your favourite podcast app.

As I say a grateful goodbye to Plant Proof to make way for The Proof, I want to extend my utmost thanks to you. It has been an incredible 4 years, and this journey could not have become what it is without you. Whether you’ve been listening from Episode #1 or tuned in for the first time today, thank you. I hope you’ve benefitted at some point along the way.

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I’m glad to have you here.


More about Drew Harrisberg

Drew Harrisberg is an exercise physiologist, sports scientist, has a graduate certificate in diabetes education and management, and most importantly – is a happy and healthy guy thriving with type 1 diabetes. After being diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at age 22, Drew made it his mission to regain control of his health by making positive changes to the way that he lives, eats, moves, and the mindset in which he approaches life. Drew has not only accepted living with diabetes but has also learned to manage it so that it doesn’t manage him. Drew’s background as a qualified health professional and his personal experience living with type 1 diabetes for over 10 years is what fuels his passion to share everything he learns along the way, which is why he created Drew’s Daily Dose – a home that inspires, empowers, and enables people to thrive rather than simply survive.

Drew is a voice for the diabetes community and is an ambassador for Diabetes NSW. He has also presented a motivational TEDx talk.

Interesting books, movies, documentaries, and podcasts

Simon’s Picks

  • Toxic by Richard Flanagan documents first-hand the Tasmania Salmon industry, which markets that they grow Atlantic salmon in pristine conditions. Flanagan goes behind the scenes to uncover the destructive nature of the industry
  • Johann Hari’s Rich Roll Podcast episode “Why You Can’t Pay Attention (& How to Reclaim Your Focus)”, and his new book, Stolen Focus
  • Vikings on Netflix

Drew’s Picks

  • Alone on SBS On Demand

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